So, You Wanna Be A Flight Nurse… The Remix: Interview your Interviewer

This is part of a series I will tagline as A Retrospective from a “Senior” Flight Nurse. Years ago, as a shiny, new flight nurse I wrote about what it took to get me here. Many years have passed and with experience comes clarity. My goal with this new series is to guide you in your journey to the sky with both an optimistic albeit realistic view. I still maintain that if you want it, you can have it… but you need to learn what “having it” really entails.

Part 1 of this series discusses the hard questions you should be asking of your potential new flight agency.


There’s a weird culture in flight medicine where candidates sometimes feel like they’re supposed to sit quietly in interviews, smile politely, and just feel grateful somebody picked them. Meanwhile you’re interviewing for a job that involves bad weather/sleep deprivation, adrenaline/operational risk/trauma/complex medicine/living with weirdos for 12-48 hours at a clip, and occasionally trying to keep someone alive in what is essentially a loud flying portapotty.

You should absolutely be asking uncomfortable questions. Not rude questions. Not gotcha questions. But honest ones because here’s the thing nobody tells you early on in your career: every flight program has problems. Every 👏single 👏one. The important part isn’t whether issues exist but whether or not leadership is aware of them, HONEST about them, and actively trying to improve them. If an agency can’t tolerate respectful questions during an interview, imagine what happens when you raise concerns after they hire you.

The shiny helicopter, cool flight suit, and social media ✨aura✨ are the easy parts to sell. What’s harder to see from the outside is the operational culture underneath it all. Are crews supported when they decline unsafe flights? Is staffing chronically held together by caffeine, empty promises and incentive pay? Do clinicians feel respected? Is leadership visible? Are people leaving for normal life reasons… or sprinting for the exits because glossed over problems ?

An interview is not a beautypageant where your only job is to impress them rather you are interviewing them too. Frankly in this industry your safety, license, mental health (what’s that?), and quality of life depend on it.

So if I were giving advice to someone walking into a flight interview tomorrow, these are some the uncomfortable questions I’d tell them to ask and if not asked in an interview, they are things I’d want to know before accepting a position. Read on at your own risk 🙃

Here are some hard but (IMHO) fair questions candidates should consider asking about their potential new employer:

Safety Culture & Operational Pressure

Because “safety first” is easy to print on a glossy poster but the real question is what happens when somebody actually says ‘no” to a flight. Flight medicine lives in the uncomfortable intersection of risk/ego/weather/fatigue/production pressure. You want to know whether this company truly backs their crews making conservative decisions… or weather they only endorse safety until it delays a revenue flight.

  • “Can you give me an example of a time your crew declined a flight for safety concerns, and how leadership responded?”
  • “What is your process for handling operational concerns brought up by pilots or clinicians who speak up?”
  • “How often are crews pressured, directly or indirectly, to complete borderline weather minimum flights?”
  • “What trends have you identified in your recent safety reports or ASAP reporting?”
  • “How does your program balance completion pressure with risk management?”
  • “What does your Just Culture process look like for your team?”
  • “What operational decisions changed after your last major safety event or near miss?” (This is a good thing to research about the program before even interviewing— major events often are public knowledge and heavily covered by media).
  • “What is your current fatigue mitigation strategy for crews?”
  • “How often do crews formally debrief difficult or high-risk missions?”

Leadership & Organizational Honesty

Every company says they’re family until staffing gets weird and suddenly Daddy Corporate starts acting stingy. Leadership culture matters because it trickles all the way down to the frontline; if you’ve been in healthcare before, you already know this. If leadership can’t openly discuss their weaknesses, the turnovers, or crew frustrations during an interview, imagine how transparent they’ll be during an ACTUAL operational problem.

  • “What do you believe is the biggest contributor to staff turnover here?”
  • “What would your current crews identify as the largest dissatisfier in the program?”
  • “What feedback do you hear repeatedly from exiting employees?”
  • “How visible and accessible is leadership to line crews?”
  • “How does leadership respond when a clinician disagrees with an operational decision?”
  • “How often do frontline clinicians participate in policy or protocol discussions?”

Clinical Expectations & Support

Some programs advertise themselves like you’re joining a high speed/low drag hoodrat-sh!t medical unit but then you spend 90% of your life transferring stable UTI patients at 2 a.m (no drips, no specials, no fun). There’s nothing wrong with that but candidates deserve honesty about what the job actually looks like. You also want to know whether the agency truly supports clinical growth or just expects you to somehow maintain high-acuity skills through ✨vibes ✨ and annual competencies.

  • “What types of calls are your crews realistically flying most often?”
  • “What skills are expected frequently versus theoretically?”
  • “How are low-frequency, high-risk procedures maintained?”
  • “How does your program support clinicians after particularly traumatic calls?”
  • “What is your orientation failure rate, and what usually predicts success here?”
  • “What continuing education is actually protected time versus expected on personal time?”
  • “How much autonomy do crews truly have in clinical decision-making?”
  • “What are your expectations regarding scene response versus interfacility priorities?”

Staffing & Burnout

Fatigue in this industry gets romanticized waaaaay too much. People joke about being “chronically caffeinated raccoons,” but exhausted clinicians make mistakes and mistakes can kill people. Burnout doesn’t usually happen because of one bad call; it happens because of chronic short staffing, constant OT, poor sleep, lack of support, and feeling like leadership sees you as a pulse with a license.

  • “What percentage of your open shifts are currently filled with overtime or incentive staffing?”
  • “How often are crews held over shift?”
  • “What is your current vacancy rate?”
  • “What does scheduling flexibility realistically look like?”
  • “How long do clinicians typically stay here?”
  • “What differentiates the people who thrive here from the people who leave?”
  • “How often are crews working short or without ideal staffing?”
  • “What systems are in place to prevent burnout besides pizza and woo-woo online learning modules?” (For the love of God dont invoke pizza party protocol in your interview..Actually, maybe just ask what systems are in place to prevent burnout… stop there).

Aircraft, Equipment & Resources

Nothing builds character quite like fighting broken equipment in the back of a vibrating tin can while somebody’s blood pressure actively leaves the chat (we’re cooked). Equipment issues aren’t just annoyances in transport medicine; they become patient care issues very quickly. Candidates should know whether crews feel heard when they identify problems or whether maintenance requests disappear into the corporate abyss of “we’ll look into it”.

  • “How quickly are maintenance concerns addressed?”
  • “What equipment issues frustrate crews the most right now?”
  • “How old is your fleet, and what modernization plans exist?”
  • “How often are aircraft swapped or downgraded operationally?”
  • “What equipment limitations most commonly affect patient care?”
  • “How much clinician input exists in equipment purchasing decisions?”

Compensation & Retention

Wanting to make the world a better place doesn’t pay the mortgage and neither does “passion.” Flight clinicians are highly trained specialists working in one of the riskiest environments in civilian healthcare. So asking about compensation and retention isn’t greedy-it’s adult behavior. Also, programs that retain experienced clinicians usually have a reason just like programs that constantly hemorrhage staff also probably have a reason….

  • “When was the last major compensation adjustment for crews?”
  • “How does the company address retention beyond sign-on bonuses?”
  • “What career growth paths realistically exist here?”
  • “What percentage of leadership previously worked line positions in this program?”

I feel like managers and recruiters are going to hate me for this advice— but it matters. It’s mattered in my personal experience and there is an industry wide conversation on many of these factors. That being said…you can usually tell within 30 seconds whether an agency has insight… or just rehearsed talking points. A healthy program won’t expect blind loyalty and it’ll respect informed skepticism.

That being said: I’m not telling you to go in and get a cocky industry know-it-all. When I bring these questions up, I’m not doing so to make you feel like you need to fix a company’s problems— and really trying to exam culture and safety can come off as aggressive if you don’t handle it tactfully and with respect. These types of questions are meant to help you get a feel for if this company will value you as you value it. So don’t go in like a jerk but rather than a clinician with discernment.

Finally, I encourage you all to remember this: there’s no greener grass, just different dog shit hiding on the lawn. It’s up to you to decide which dog shit you’re willing to tolerate (me: chihuahua sized and not those weird fossilized white dog turds).

-Clear skies and tail winds!


Because I know yall are heathens… here’s the too long; didn’t read.

TL;DR: Candidates in flight medicine should interview agencies as hard as agencies interview them. Ask directly about safety culture, turnover, fatigue, staffing, leadership transparency, operational pressure, and how crews are treated when they say “no.”


Are you an experienced flight clinician? Add your hard questions below!

So, You Wanna Be A Flight Nurse?

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One of the most common questions I get on my Instagram is “I wanna be a flight nurse but don’t know where to start! What do you recommend?”

Well let me start by saying– there is no one clearcut path and the path is a different one from state-to-state. But don’t let this deter you from continuing to read!

If you read my “About the Blogger” page–you’ll see that my own path was a winding, treacherous one with little guidance but my own dreams and aspirations. That is step one–set your goal. So already you’re own your way to joining the flight community by simply identifying your own dreams.

“Ok Steph…great…super helpful…” I hear you cry.

But quite honestly, it is the truth. I wouldn’t have gotten here without understanding my passion and keeping that end goal firmly in sight. The way is not easy–as it shouldn’t be. You’ll need that dream to motivate you through the journey.

So to start– flight nursing is generally guided by standards set by our regulating/certifying body “the Commission on Accreditation of Medical Transport Systems” or CAMTS (pronounced “cames”). This body accredits critical care transports to ensure patient safety and high-level patient care. It is an umbrella organization that really actually has representatives from a multitude of different organizations such as the Air and Surface Transport Nurses Association, the American College of Surgeons, the National Association of EMS Physicians, the International Association of Flight & Critical Care Paramedics, and the American Association of Critical Care Nurses (plus more not listed). While accreditation by CAMTS is strictly voluntary, many governmental regulating agencies require participation (with good reason!)

As a participant of CAMTS, many helicopter emergency medical services (HEMS) agencies require their crews to maintain competencies in a myriad of different subjects, advanced certification, and a minimal amount of years of experience.

You Can’t Just Jump Right In

“But why?! I always wanted to be a flight nurse/paramedic–can’t I just graduate school and start right away in the field?”

Consider the role of the flight nurse/paramedic–you and one other person are responsible for the life of the sickest or most injured people. You operate based on past experience and your own knowledge base in a small, confined space of an ambulance or helicopter without the oversight of a physician at your immediate disposal. You operate relatively autonomously (based on set protocol sets for your organization) and lack the resources normally found in a hospital.

One such call reminded me of this fact– after retrieving a newly intubated patient who was a difficult one to ventilate, required a great deal of sedation, and simply put was a hot-mess express of a human, our helicopter threw warning lights. We had to be transported with this patient from the confines of the referring hospital to an air field at a remote site, in the pitch black of night, with this patient. And when our helicopter threw warning lights, we were grounded and couldn’t launch. Meanwhile, we were running out of meds to keep this patient sedated, his fever broke causing him to sweat out his one IV site access, we had no lights but our flashlights, and just the two of us in a small space (pretty sure we were stepping all over each other). I was blessed to have a partner with experience as we attempted to secure more IV access, keep him sedated and titrated his ventilator settings while we awaited another helicopter to retrieve us. Then came the circus of transferring our gear and the patient through a muddy field (still pitch black) into a running helicopter (while keeping the patient under sedation/ventilated) AND making sure one of the lovely first responders who stayed with us didn’t wander into the spinning tail rotor blades of death.

It made me miss the bright lights, multiple staff members, and roominess of my ER rooms (never will I whine about the lack of space in them again!) Because in those situations, you don’t have all that to back you up–hence why you NEED to be competent and experienced.

Respiratory therapy? Thats me. Decision-maker during a code? Thats me. You don’t have your ancillary services readily available. Your physician is miles and miles away via radio–you are their hands, their ears, and their eyes.

What Should I Expect to Get to Qualify?

Still interested? Of course you are! Because in addition to operating at the highest level of your license…well to put it bluntly–this job is freaking cool!!

So what does it take to be a flight nurse? It varies from flight service to flight service but you should expect these (at least):

  • 3-5 years of critical care experience (ICU or ED)
  • Basic Life Support (BLS)
  • Advanced Life Support (ACLS)
  • Pediatric Advanced Life Support (PALS)
  • Neonatal Resuscitation Program (NRP)
  • Trauma Certification (ITLS, PHTLS, ATCN)
  • Advanced Certification (CCRN, CEN, or CFRN, etc)
  • Prehospital licensure (varies state to state, contact your state’s EMS regulatory agency for more information on this– Pennsylvania requires non-EMT RN’s to take a “Pre-hospital Registered Nurse (PHRN)” program prior to testing or if an EMT already, the RN to challenge the “National Registry Paramedic Cognitive” exam)

Many of you already out and working, probably have some of these or can get them through your hospital. Others (like me) have to go out and find these.

It Came at a Cost, Though

One secret I’m going to tell you though: it was expensive for me to get qualified. While I had BLS, ACLS, and PALs as job requirements for the ED… I had to go out and find the rest.

Being an EMT, I challenged the paramedic cognitive–this cost me about 200$ whereas had I gone through the PHRN prep program at a local community-college, it would’ve cost me $1,500 and 7-8 months of class time. (More on this later)

Neonatal Resuscitation Program cost me about 75$ even though it was offered through my hospital. Depending on where you take this, it can go upwards of 100-200$.

Advanced Trauma Care in Nursing (ATCN) cost me another 250-275$ (add on the additional almost 300$ I paid to become an instructor after being identified as an “instructor candidate”–unless you get chosen for this and wish to obtain it, don’t worry about this added cost.)

In addition, I bulked up my resume with Advanced Burn Life Support (ABLS), Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC), Advanced Stroke Life Support (ASLS), and other trauma courses above and beyond what the minimums were.

Flight programs also lean heavily on bachelors of science in nursing degrees–you either need to already have it, be working on it, or obtain it within a certain amount of years.

So What Did I Do and What Do I Recommend?

Another question I frequently get is “should I do this or that?”

Let me start with my journey and what worked or didn’t work for me before I give my recommendations.

As I noted in my “About the Blogger” page of my blog– I started in BLS EMS back in 2007. Finished my BSN in 2014 and entered into a community Adult ICU. This ICU had its share of ventilators and drips but generally speaking, anything of high acuity was shipped out to the larger tertiary care center not far away. I was frequently assigned between the ICU and stepdown unit (stepdown more often than ICU) or floated to the medical/surgical floors to work as an aide. I quickly tired of this and sought after a position in a busy emergency department closer to home.

I worked in the ED for four years before getting interviews for flight services. I often gravitated more towards the critical/trauma bays and found myself super frustrated with the urgent care level patients–I craved the ability to use my critical thinking and to handle the sickest patients.

April 2016, I obtained my Trauma Certified Registered Nurse certification from the Board of Certification of Emergency Nurses and March 2018, I obtained my Certified Emergency Nurse certification.

I challenged the paramedic cognitive after self-studying and passed.

I entertained two offers for flight services and accepted one closer to home and began my orientation in October 2018.

What I quickly realized in my orientation: I’m not the hot shot I thought!

While I saved money and felt I was ready to undertake the PHRN role–I found that not taking the PHRN prep class put me behind. I had to learn all the State ALS/Critical Care protocols in addition to my service’s protocols. I had no experience in airway management beyond manakins and theory whereas my colleagues who prep-classed had clinical time through their programs.

Recommendation: regardless of your experience, take the prep class and take it seriously.

Further, while the emergency department gave me broad experience with all ages (womb to tomb if you will), I lacked a great deal of critical care experience that my ICU-level colleagues possessed. I did have more experience with initial stabilization and emergency care which serves me well on scene-calls but when a majority of your transports are interfacility, ICU-level patients, you feel this lack of experience.

Recommendation: If you wish to pursue a career in the ED–great! But be prepared for a steep learning curve. Take advantage of having all age groups. However, I strongly recommend time in a major ICU in neuro or cardiac specialities. This gives you a better jump off point for you to pull experiences from. If you can swing it in your life–DO BOTH! ICUs generally specialize in certain ages, so you don’t get the experience of neonatal or pediatric in the adult ICU and vice versa. In hindsight, I wish I had more ICU experience.

So the Wrap-Up

If you’re interested in flying…reach out to organizations in your area and schedule fly-alongs. Ask the crews there “what do you recommend?” I’m one flight nurse and my journey has been one of many avenues you could follow. They often can help you figure out how to get your prehospital certification, guide you to what their programs look for, and is a great opportunity in general to just make sure you can handle flying!

Flight medicine for me has been the most challenging and rewarding adventure I’ve ever had. I’ve felt elated at the sensation of flight, the satisfaction in saving a life, and the camaraderie of working with the greatest nurses and paramedics in the field. But I’ve come home broken and questioning my place here. It is like that whole first year of nursing all over again. I wouldn’t change it though. It’s been a beautiful adventure.

 

So welcome you future flight nurses–can’t wait to see you in the skies. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions you might have.

Clear skies and tail winds!